we don't have new money for government to spend on infrastructure. government has to play a role here, but increasingly there's a desire from the private sector from private capital to invest in infrastructure. >> jay, we almost always talk about the developed nations and their economies. when they have problems, when they sneeze, the emerging nations catch the flu, right? they are dealing with the impact of the mistakes or the problems in the developed nations far more, right? >> well, i think that's right, toure. here's the interesting thing about infrastructure. if we do a very serious, large, infrastructure program in the united states over the next couple of years, we do two things. we employ a lot of people and good-paying jobs and near term very low growth. over the median term it helps to protect us and make sure we have the competitive position we need to benefit from the emerging economies in their growth as the emerging middle class in dhichi asia, india and elsewhere comes on stream in 2025. we want to sell into asia. >> all right, jay, t